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Gravity, Black Holes, Dark Matter, Expanding Universe

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That 'gravitational force' is produced by objects only proportional to their inertia or mass, seems proven by Galileo's on-Earth experiments, by Newton's proof that planet motions seem consistant with that, and it being demonstrated with laboratory masses by Cavendish in 1798 (see Vision Learning Gravity).

And that 'gravitational force' decreases with the square of the distance from a producing object seems proved by Newton's gravitational planet motions and by the 1798 Cavendish experiments.

Of course there are claims that this does not hold accurately always, mostly based on astronomical evidence of observed amounts of gravity and observed amounts of matter in space seemingly having both localised and universe-wide discrepancies. Some try to explain such apparant gravity discrepancies by assuming the existance of local Black Holes and universe-wide Dark Matter, though there may be little if any direct evidence for these.
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Gravity and its causation

Applied external forces generally, including pushes, seem to accelerate bodies in inverse proportion to the mass of the body. That bodies responses to gravity seem likewise inversely proportional to their inertia or mass, is consistent with Newton - and with Galileo demonstrating that all objects fall to the surface of the earth with the same acceleration, independent of the density or inertia or mass of the falling object. That applies to all kinds of force, but to date gravity is the only natural force with strong evidence of also being produced in proportion to a source objects mass.

Of course these facts are not proof that gravity is actually an external force pulling bodies, only that gravity works like there is an external attraction 'force'.

It is possible to build mobile robots that each emit signals proportional to their mass and each accelerate themselves towards another in proportion to the strength of its signals and in proportion to their own mass. Though such gravity-robots can be built and could be useful, it seems that no physicist has actually tried building them. Such 'gravity robots' would be dynamic gravity model mimic equivalents of William Gilbert's dynamic magnetic Terella models which he used for many of his interesting magnetism experiments. Of course such 'gravity robots' could only mimic gravity, while Gilbert Terella models involve actual magnetism. Gravity would have to be a much stronger force than it is to have useful 'Gravity Terella' models - small black holes might do well if they can exist !

That gravity production and response can be mimicked by robots emitting signals, is of course no real evidence on whether gravity is actually produced and actually works in such a manner or not.

Too much gravity.

Dark Matter ?

Gravity can work at different levels at the same time - as in attracting an apple to the ground and in holding the Moon in orbit around Earth. It can produce actual or potential accelerations of various kinds, with many possible effects at very large or small distances.

The motions of galaxies appears to some to require much more gravity than the visible components of such galaxies should produce. This has led some to conclude that there must exist some Dark Matter producing extra gravity, perhaps based on uncharged and maybe slow-moving neutrino-style particles (of small or big mass) that interact little with normal matter and so will give little evidence of their existing. Of course dark matter can go with attraction theory physics which has no requirement that matter emit light, and indeed has no general requirement for light unlike Einstein's relativity theory. But dark matter could also maybe go with some other physics.

Instead of dark matter for 'missing gravity', MOND theory basically involves gravity response maintaining a minimum value even when gravity signals drop - so giving more gravity than expected as at galactic plus distances. This is of course compatible with an attraction physics signal-theory in which response to signals might be expected to have some minimum level. Of course some signal response systems involve all-or-none digital-type response, and/or signal-threshold response, response delay times or other signal response effects. So identifying all applicable parameters for a signal-response gravity might not be a simple matter and may need much accurate data that is not all now available.

Black Holes ?

Some regions of the universe that appear to produce more gravity than their visible components should, are thought by some to be super-compressed matter called Black Holes, whose gravity is claimed to be extremely strong and to be able to prevent the emission of light or other radiation from itself. Of course this requires that light can respond to gravity as objects with mass do. But in General Relativity gravity is only space curvature, so to confine emitted light would seem to only need the spacetime continuum being 'closed down' locally - however in that case the gravity within a black hole should have no effect beyond it. A basic conflict with the evidence if General Relativity was true, so black holes certainly cannot be evidence for that theory. And black holes can go with attraction theory physics which can allow of light being attracted by gravity, with Newton giving possible explanations of the reflection and refraction of light by local attraction. Black holes could also go with some other theories.

A simpler explanation of both dark matter and black holes might be that light emission and lower matter density is associated with charged particles. Uncharged particles and gatherings of them may be more common in the universe generally than apparant on earth. A gathering of neutrons would be both dark or black and dense, and need involve no strange theory. Neutrons look more like simple Descartes-atoms, and indeed it may be that charged particles and matter based on them actually are the somewhat stranger phenomenon.

Too little gravity.

Gravity being an attraction force, it perhaps should cause the universe to be contracting. And there does seem to be evidence of at least some gravity contraction in that most galaxies seem to have a greater concentration of matter nearer their centers. However there is claimed evidence for an expanding universe, basically resting only on observation showing that light over longer than galactic distances appears to lose more energy - though there could well be other more likely explanations for such observation. Those claiming that the universe is actually expanding, generally offer variations around two types of explanation for such expansion ;

A. The universe began with an explosion and momentum maintains its expansion at some fixed velocity.
B. There is a stronger repulsive force working against gravity expanding the universe at some fixed acceleration. The evidence for the universe expanding rather than shrinking, is largely Hubble light redshifts being greater for more distant galaxies. The Doppler relative-velocity Effect (apparant change in frequency and wavelength of a wave for relative movement between it or its source and an observer) if applicable to light seemingly supports a B type expansion rather than an A type expansion. However B needs a suitable repulsive force and some posit Dark Energy for that, but there is little supporting evidence. Of course there could seem to be other possibilities, one being a gravity expansion involving gravity from outside the currently visible universe as from an external shell of matter or from 'invisible dimensions'.
C. The universe began with an explosion and momentum maintains its expansion at a fixed velocity but with centralised gravity decelerating bodies nearer the centre more strongly than bodies further from the centre. This should give Doppler red shifts that are stronger towards the universe centre than towards the universe edge radially, but with some blue shifting tangentially.
D. The universe is gravitationally contracting, with centralised gravity accelerating bodies nearer the centre more strongly than bodies further from the centre. This should give Doppler red shifts radially towards and away from the universe centre but with some blue shifting tangentially.

The explosion Big Bang explanation, A, alone should give no Doppler redshifts - while B, C and D explanations should give differing redshifts more radially than tangentially to different extents. Einstein time-dilation gravitation-redshifting predicts some redshifting from higher-gravity locations and blue-shifting from lower-gravity locations. Many current astronomers support a general space-expanding explanation, and some even a FitzGerald matter-shrinking explanation, giving Doppler-equivalent redshifts. What explanation, or combination of explanations, of apparant universe-expansion is more likely depends on having exact numbers for redshifts, distances, velocities and masses - and current astronomy numbers are maybe not very exact, but if the universe is expanding that does not itself seem to favour any of the general physics theories particularly.

There is claimed to be evidence that redshift universe expansion may be somewhat weaker - or dark matter repulsion be weaker, or gravity be stronger, or whatever - at longer distance and at later time. (see eg Afshordi, Geshnizjani and Khoury)

Classical relative motion involves the Addition of Velocities Effect which basically says that for any two bodies moving towards each other, at velocities v1 and v2, their relative velocity is v1 + v2 with opposite motion being a -v. The Doppler Effect simply applies this to periodic emission motions, such as are commonly found in waves in mediums. For waves, their frequency is their velocity times the inverse of their wavelength, or is their period per second, as F=v/L. Periodic particle beams, eg of particles emitted each 5 seconds as their period, can have equivalent measures including frequency, velocity and periodlength. Hence a positive velocity of a signal detector relative to any periodic signal, adds to the relative signal velocity and so increases the signals apparent frequency and decreases its apparent wavelength or periodlength as F=(v1+v2)/L, and no accelerations or acceleration forces are required for such Addition of Velocity or Doppler effects. (an increased apparent frequency can be called a blue-shift and its opposite a red-shift).

Einstein claimed that light uniquely does not show classical relative velocity effects, but does show both acceleration effects and gravitation effects from his claimed Acceleration-Gravity Equivalence Principle. Light passing a massive body will be deflected towards the body as its speed is reduced more in regions of greater gravity or under greater acceleration - and it will hence also suffer some reduction in frequency (red-shift)...predicted effect values are greater than classical motion effect values alone, but in itself that still allows that the classical effect may hold but with some extra factor also applying.

Spherical Gravity ?

Newton showed that the strength of gravitational attraction seems to decrease in proportion to the square of the distance from a source object, and one explanation of that might be something emitted spherically from the source and diluting as the surface area of expanding spheres from it with zero attenuation. The surface area of spheres is proportional to the square of their radius.

Of course at present the only gravity detectors we have are other gravity sources responding to gravity, which perhaps cannot distinguish gravity being actually spherical from gravity being directed to other gravity sources ? The fact that bodies like galaxies and solar systems seem generaly to be flat discs, rather than being spherical, may cast some doubt on gravity being actually spherical and require another explanation for Newtons inverse square law ? Newton's inverse square law for gravity is of the form G(d) = Go/(d.d), in line with unattenuating spherically diluting signals, but may not precisely hold for all distance scales. Attenuating part-diluting signals should mean an equation form G(Xd) = (Go/(pie.((d.TanX).(d.TanX)))) - 10alog(d), which could possibly match Newton's law over some range of equation values and might have wider application also ?

At the atomic level, spherical non-discrete forces may seem to fit more with field, wave or space continuum ideas while non-spherical discrete forces may fit more with body-body digital signal ideas. The fact that electrons seem confined to very specific atomic orbits maybe better fits a non-spherical non-continuum force holding them, and if one force is non-spherical and digital then maybe all such forces are also.

If gravity basically involves straight-line body-to-body signals then part of signal dilution with distance could be due to relative body-body motion and might also include some movement anticipation as considered near the bottom of our main section on Einstein. Of course if that holds between two elementary particles, a large isolated body having vast numbers of such particles could be expected to leak some gravity signals spherically and that leakage might reasonably approximate to Newton's inverse square law with a little extra attenuation. The between two large bodies gravity would be leakage gravity plus some body-body gravity that might about balance any extra attenuation. Distinguishing and quantifying the various factors in such gravity would not be simple.

If bodies emit gravitons only in response to gravitons received, and if the probability of a body emitting a graviton in response to a graviton received is proportional to the mass of the body, then two isolated bodies at relative rest should maintain graviton emission intensities directed at each other proportional to their masses. And if there are also additional background random gravitons of some intensity then, in response to that, the two bodies should also maintain additional spherical graviton emissions with intensities proportional to their masses ?

An improved version of Descartes old particle push gravity theory propounded first by Fatio around 1690, and elaborated by Le Sage around 1780, was the push particle Shadow-Gravity theory. It requires space everywhere having lots of randomly moving fast particles (or maybe waves) of unknown origin, but it has been claimed that they would create excessive drag and heat that is not observed and may involve other problems ?

Newton raised the drag issue for gravity mechanisms that involve push - and the issue holds for any particle, quantum, field, ether, or continuum mechanism that works by push - since push should produce drag and/or heat and there is strong evidence that space produces very little drag or heat for planets or other bodies.

Of course some kind of push gravity may still be possible with the right mechanism, which might need most of the push to somehow convert to eg spin energy instead of drag or heat ? Maybe even some field-push or continuum-push theory not yet fully specified ? Of course that would seem to need a response mechanism and so favour an attraction gravity or signal-response gravity that seems more able to avoid the problem perhaps ?


2010 in England sees an interesting publicised addition by the Royal Society for the first time to the internet of one physics related manuscript relating to gravity and Isaac Newton, but maybe adding to long-running lies rather than to the truth ?
A 'friend' of Newton in his 1752 'Memoirs of Sir Isaac Newton's Life', regarding an around-1666 event, refers to attraction perhaps somewhat non-causally as 'a drawing power' - which might be an attraction or be a pull or be either ?

In William Stukeley's words, "as when formerly the notion of gravitation came into his mind. Why does that apple always descend perpendicularly to the ground ... assuredly the reason is that the Earth draws it. There must be a drawing power in matter. If matter thus draws matter ; it must be in proportion of its quantity. Therefore the apple draws the Earth, as well as the Earth draws the apple." - from the Royal Society manuscript at Royal Society manuscripts

But this maybe does not help clarify whether Newton actually first thought of gravitation as being an attraction or as being a pull or in line with his later published position as being possibly either. Newton's own words include no gravitation 'drawing', only 'attraction' or 'impulse (push-pull)'. Rather perhaps Stukeley exemplifies how Newton's actual gravitation theory ideas were misrepresented while his physics mathematics were misappropriated for a Descartes mechanical physics when they perhaps better fitted a William Gilbert effluvia-signal-processing attraction information physics.

For an overview of 'Gilbert-Newton' gravity see The Attraction Theory of gravity and other forces or Attraction Physics
(en Français - La théorie d'Attraction de gravité et d'autres forces),
(auf Deutsch - Die Attraktivität Theorie von schwerkraft und andere kräfte).

Two significant general gravity issues

Two possibly significant general issues have been raised relating to gravity, and they may well be inter-related issues ;

1. Does a mass with more energy generate a greater gravitational attraction than the same mass with less energy, ie does energy like mass also generate gravity.
2. Does a gravitationally accelerating body actually show any net gain or net loss of mass and/or energy from its gravitational acceleration ?

While there is evidence that any such effects must be small, in line with gravity being a weak force, there seems to be no further real experimental evidence to date on such effects ?

Gravity and solar system instability

Newton showed that the orbits of planets and moons in our solar system under the Sun's gravitational attraction should have substantial stablity. But he did not consider the issue of the Sun's stability under the varying gravitational attractions of these orbiting bodies, which involves a number of factors ;

1. The total gravitational attraction exerted on the Sun.
2. The mean directionality of gravitational attraction exerted on the Sun being equatorial due to orbit planes.
3. The point gravitational attraction exerted on the Sun due to planets being discrete.
4. The time variance of point gravitational attraction exerted on the Sun due to planet orbit velocities giving varying degrees of planet conjugations.

These gravitation factors must be the chief causes of the observed instability of the Sun as shown by solar activity and its significant variation over time. This solar instability would be reduced if some of the planets orbited the Sun in a plane at 90 degrees to their present orbit planes. For more on this see our section on Solar System Problems.


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