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Rene Descartes or Rene Des Cartes (1596-1650) was a philosopher and mathematician with a basically simple theory of the universe that many saw as in line with the emerging science of the time. He basically took mechanics and made it a complete theory of a determinate-law universe composed of only matter and pieces of moving matter pushing other pieces of matter, and its only energy being the motion property of matter. He hypothesised a fluid matter ether vortex motion pushing the planets around the sun, and had particle push theories for terrestrial gravity and for magnetism. [for religious believers Descartes also allowed of a second God-determined immaterial spiritual energy universe that had no determinate-law connection with the material universe but only with the mind or soul of humans.] Descartes' basic ideas were perhaps best put in his Principia Philosophiae (Principles of Philosophy) published in 1644. Or you can read an English version of his Discourse..., through the excellent Google Books - Google Descartes.
Descartes was primarily a logician who did much interesting work
in philosophy and mathematics. He used logic more than experiment
in developing his new science, and his logic is maybe best known
for his 'most certain' proposition "I think, therefore I am". He might
perhaps logically have taken a Gilbert-like conclusion from that, that
the universe certainly contained thinking things and did not certainly
contain any non-thinking things. But perversely Descartes' certain-logic
went with the opposite conclusion - that most things in the universe are non-thinking, and
that only God and humans think. He posited a separate spiritual-mental
universe distinct from the physical universe, and excluded from science.
Of course this Dualist conclusion does seem to accord with common views
of a stone not thinking, if not with Descartes' own certainty-logic. 'I think'
seems to fit better with 'I observe' and with observers existing - and directly
from that with things to think upon or observe from, such as signals
existing. But 'I think' really gives less support to the view that
no-thinking no-signals solid objects exist, which perversely is the basis of
Descartes physics theory.
And Descartes' physics seems to rest on a very doubtful view of the
human senses, taking touch as being the only certain sense as supposedly
being unique in not requiring sensory signals. Of course touch may seem less
certain for liquids and very uncertain for gasses. Gilbert and Newton took all
proper experiment or experience as equally valid for science. Should the assumed
sensitivities of any observer be allowed to determine the validity of alternative
physics theories anyway ? The issue arises for Descartes' physics, but perhaps
applies also to some modern physics theories taking sight as the only sure sense
and light the only sure signal ?
George Berkeley's 'to be is to be perceived' philosophy concluding that
non-thinking things did not exist, was no great challenge to Descartes matter push
physics and no help to Gilbert signal physics since Berkeley somehow
additionally concluded that signals informing thinking did not exist either. Berkeley
was chiefly concerned with some 'non-causal non-physical thinking',
while Gilbert was chiefly concerned with the significance of basic
'causal physical thinking' or natural responses to natural signals as in magnetic
attraction etcetera. And a Descartes physics keeping science out of spiritual-mental
matters was less a problem to religion than a Gilbert science that looked like allowing
science to explain all including the mental and spiritual. Descartes science was
confined to the merely technological, leaving religion to lord over the more important
human and spiritual arenas. His science also required humans to be unique in the universe, unlike Gilbert's.
In his logic-derived material universe theory, Descartes saw objects as
mechanical only and animals as mechanical clockwork robots, and the
human body, senses and brain largely likewise - except that humans
alone had soul/self-awareness like God. His mechanism for automatic
reaction by animals (and the human body largely) to 'signals' was
as to direct push forces - so light basically punches eye nerves.
Descartes theory viewed all 'signals' (or Gilbert corporeal and non-corporeal 'effluvia' and Newton 'spirits emitted')
as corporeal material particles that pushed sense organs mechanically and
mechanically caused animal actions deterministically, so that
animals reacted more as billiard balls to other billiard balls and
less as thinking things or robots responding to information signals.
Descartes had an invisible-vortex-push theory for planetary motion, and for
terrestrial gravity he had a separate theory of celestial-particles
moving away from the centre of the earth and so displacing and
sucking-down masses in their path. His magnetism 'effluvia' were also
invisible material particles and physically pulled and pushed magnets, for
which he had to postulate left and right handed corkscrew shaped
particles working like corkscrews. Descartes' universe was a
mechanical ('wind-up') clockwork robot universe, with energy only
as the property of matter being in motion and nothing other than
God and human souls being non-material. His material universe was
all matter with no empty space and with no separate energy besides
the kinetic motion energy of bodies. His 'no empty space' was
in line with Aristotle and Huygens but opposed the experimental
evidence offered by Gilbert, Newton and others who supported
non-corporeal energies or 'spirits' also existing - separately from matter
and being maybe not visible but detectable by experimental science.
To Descartes the essential properties of bodies were only the
absolute requirements that they must occupy some space and no two
bodies could occupy the same space at the same time, so that any
body motion contact involved pushing other bodies from the space they
occupied. Bodies were of different sizes or shapes, and their
pushing motions explain all physical behaviour including gravity,
electricity and magnetism. One body could not penetrate another body,
though a larger body might contain spaces that a smaller body could enter
as especially might a thin fluid. Mass was simply the measure of the size
and pushability of bodies. He had no real explanation of how bodies could
differ in shape and fluidity if no attraction-type forces were involved - and
so also no real explanation of conjoined-bodies pulling each other.
Gilbert and Newton correctly saw this theory as always requiring
detectable effects like drag. So Gilbert concluded that magnetism
cannot work by push since magnets showed no effect on air or candle
flames, and Newton concluded that space had no push ether or
continuum since planet orbits show no slowing effect. Both supported
space as being empty or non-material and allowed both corporeal matter bodies
and non-corporeal force energy or 'spirit' bodies, and saw 'Mass' as
a measure of objects gravity production and response.
Descartes' philosophical Logical Mechanical Universe science
theory ideas influenced many and basically still does. He
made a major contribution to philosophy, and his basic science theory ideas have
been adopted by the majority of physicists to date. Descartes produced 'laws of
motion' that read almost the same as Newton's, though his motion
examples are often about bodies being pushed by unseen ethers more
like Aristotlian motion. Newton published a disproof of the part of
Descartes' 'dead-matter' theory that involved ether vortex motion
pushing planets around, but seems not to have taken that as
essential to it and electro-magnetic field theory based on a
modified Descartes ether idea became accepted by most physicists
until the Mitchelson-Morley experiment of 1887 indicated that
either the ether did not exist or ether motion did not exist, which
Einstein agreed, though his spacetime continuum was ether-like if
not a full replacement.
There was much support for Descartes ether push physics
even after chunks of his own theory were firmly disproved. Hence
Russian mathematician Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) rejected the
planet motion and Earth tide ideas of Descartes. But still
Euler supported general Descartes ether push physics, as even in
publishing a 'proof' of Descartes push-attraction ether corkscrew
magnetism in 1744 - another piece of Descartes theory that was
not long in being disproved. Euler was maybe just another example of great
mathematics backing bad science.
Directly opposing William Gilbert, Rene Descartes believed in the
certainty of rigorous logical reasoning though not merely
mathematical reasoning, and that experience and experiment were of
less certainty. Descartes held that his was the best science
possible, explaining the universe to the best extent possible
though it might be impossible to establish the actual causes of
phenomena like gravity. Hence on causation he states a neo-blackbox
position in his Principles of Philosophy Part 3.CCIV ;
"That, touching the things which our senses do not perceive, it is
sufficient to explain how they can be."
"I most freely concede this, and I have done all that was required,
if the causes I have assigned are such that their effects
accurately correspond to all the phenomena of nature, without
determining whether it is by these or by others that they are
actually produced. And it will be sufficient for use in life to
know the causes thus imagined ...."
Hence Descartes himself was maybe less fully committed to his
push-physics than most of the physicists supporting it. And of
course other physicists were soon producing evidence that solid
objects are not solid but are largely empty space with some
perhaps-solid particles. So a billiard ball pushing another
billiard ball may well be largely space 'pushing' space - with at
most a very few particles contacting. So must the transfer of
momentum from all the particles of one ball, to all the particles
of the other ball, involve action-at-a-distance and not involve
push-contact ? If most apparent contact is not contact, then any push
physics has a problem and maybe needs mechanical ethers or particle
emissions - and proving their solidity may not really ever be
possible ? Contact requires a zero distance that is not measurable and so not provable like finite distances. If Descartes' push physics rested on touch, and Einstein's on
vision, then maybe Gilbert/Newton response attraction physics alone
having observers and signals within the physics was also the least
dependent on particular human senses ? Descartes' physics also included
solid push ethers, though some other push-physics theories do
not.
Wave theory involving motions of material media became a
significant part of Descartes physics, but from Einstein's time
waves not involving motions of material media were postulated and
were incompatible with Descartes physics. And determinate-law energy or
'spirit' that is not the motion property of matter yet affects the motion of matter, as in Gilbert-Newton
attraction-physics forces and in 'field' forces, was also incompatible
with Descartes physics.
In Descartes push-physics all physicsl energy is matter motion, and all matter
motion is energy including uniform motion. In Gilbert-Newton attraction-physics
all energy is either signal motion which is uniform motion, or is signal response
motion which is acceleration motion and signals can be non-corporeal. And while in any Descartes-style physics
all energy is basically absolute, any signal-response physics allows of at least
some energy being basically relative. Hence all signal emission necessarily
involves some motion of material or energy signals from an emitter relative to
some receiver or observer that may themselves be in motion, and all responses to
such signals as act as physical forces are relative matter accelerations. In both
of the two seemingly very different types of physics, energy is basically linked
with motion but in basically different ways. There are of course other types of
physics, as those that try to replace matter itself with energy often in the form
of some wave motion of something basically undefined or with some 'wave
motion of nothing' or unassociated energy. And it seems that waves of any
specified quantal frequency do especially respond to other waves of that
quantal frequency only, as in standing-wave interference. While some would take
that as only a rare phenomenon of little significance with an almost infinite
variety of different frequencies possible, others postulate it as being more
fundamental. All these types of physics have energy motion issues including
interaction motion issues. The main experimental science concerns have to be trying to
determine the validity of similarities or differences in the mathematics and predictions
needed by such different physics theories.
In classical Galileo-Descartes push physics, matter chiefly has the contact-
push property where amount of push defines 'mass and energy is only the motion
property of matter - including waves of such matter. In classical Gilbert-Newton
signal attraction physics, matter chiefly has the signal-response property and
energy is only matter response - including waves of such matter. But of course
many physicists now claim that there are 'non-matter waves' and 'non-matter
energy', often omitting firm definitions as of mass, as in theories like the Quanta
Physics of Vertner Vergon. And some of such physics theories also claim that
non-matter waves and/or energy somehow have a push property as in the
ElectroMagnetic Radiation Pressure (EMRP) gravity theory. Descartes matter push
has a well defined mechanism, from two pieces of matter being unable to occupy
the same space at the same time, but the EMRP 'push' really seems to be some
unexplained moving away that maybe cannot be properly called a push. (eg see
EMRP)
But the basics of Descartes push physics have perhaps still not been firmly disproved,
since it remains somewhat doubtful that light or any form of energy has yet been
firmly shown to be other than matter response or matter motion ?
Despite clear disproofs of substantial elements of Descartes physics, it has had one
perhaps unlikely success area - in gasses, two of which seem able to occupy the
same space and do not appear to push each other. Yet today's standard 'Kinetic
Theory' of gasses is simple Descartes push physics theory assuming microscopic gas
molecules are solid moving balls, though with no Descartes ether, and it is great at
explaining gas temperatures, pressures and wave motions etcetera. So Descartes push
physics lives on for the macroscopic behaviour of gasses, as Gilbert-Newton attraction
physics lives on for the common behaviour of gravitational and magnetic bodies. (Of course
Descartes physics needs an ether to explain at-a-distance forces like gravity, and an
attraction physics can undoubtedly also explain gasses.)
But attempts to prove modified Descartes general physics theories still continue,
as with Steven Rado's 'Aethro-kinematics' push physics which basically is Descartes
physics with ether vortex-motion replaced with ether torus-motion
to 'explain' gravitational, magnetic and other forces. It is not clear that its ether torus-motion
has any real basis, though it is partly supported by some interesting experimental torus-model
evidence - see Aethro-kinematics.
But in any case the known experiment mathematics of these forces does not agree with the
known experiment mathematics of vortex/torus motions - so the latter cannot give the
actual elliptical orbits of the planets and where 3 gravity forces can add
as 1 force from a common center of gravity, 3 vortex/torus motion forces cannot add in
that way so a Newton-disproof still holds. (a similar problem also seems to apply in trying to
add multiple space-curvature forces, as balloons expanded 1 percent or 3 percent do not
exert proportionately more force ?)
The currently best developed Descartes push physics theories are
perhaps Particle Exchange Quantum Mechanics and Lorentz-Fitzgerald
Ether Fieldforce Theory, which may well both involve the same
mathematics as a properly developed Gilbert signal response
physics. These three may well be valid image theories.
For comparison with other physics theories, Descartes three laws of
motion would be ;
1. Every body will remain at rest, or in a uniform state of motion
unless pushed or pulled.
2. When a body is pushed or pulled, it accelerates proportional to
the force of the push or pull and inversely proportional to the
mass of the body and in the direction pushed or pulled.
3. Every push or pull has an equal and opposite reaction.
PS. For some modern Descartes physics, with a fair sprinkling of some other 'non-mainstream physics',
see the Natural Philosophy Alliance and the World Science Database - at //thescientificworldview.blogspot.com and //www.worldsci.org.
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Philosophiae (Principles of Philosophy) but somehow the original
seems not available online anywhere. But an online English
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